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no cache fixtures POC #12816

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and fixturedef is not None
and fixturedef.use_cache is False
):
self._fixture_defs.pop(argname)
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as mentioned in the issue before, i think its important to use a scope name here as indicator instead of the new boolean (in particular as use_cache as implemented here invalidates the scope

the scope name we had in mind back in 2020 was "invocation" to mean that the scope of a validity for a fixture value would be the call (be it other fixture or test function in which it was used

i like the hack with just popping the values as a workaround for the current tech debt as it seems like the impact is limited, but i'd like the input of the others in this

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I see.
If we insist on going with the scope like approach rather than the boolean, I think we could still work-around this while leaving the implementation the same. We just change the arg name to a string scope and will currently only support one scope for this (or two considering default behavior).
This way changing the implementation to a more robust infrastructure centered around the actual scoping won't be breaking.
I think this would be a step in the right direction and would probably solve the general use-case for this issue :)
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That's the rough idea - add a new scope name, then use the workaround you created and gate on the scope name

For good measure we might need a test that ensures setup/teardown is in sync with the usage sites

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